Ever notice the Pro-Choice Movement of today uses the same Arguments as the Pro-Slave Movement of 1850's?

In 1856 the Speak of the House said: I personally chose not to own a slave..but I would NEVER stand in the way of another man's LEGAL RIGHT to own one..the House erupted into a standing ovation. His Pro-Slavery view was wrong then and his ancestors the Pro-Abortion movement is wrong today. Both agree that they don't respect human life, one was "just"a slave another "just" tissue, forever linked in history together. The slave master argued that we can't set free the blacks because they weren't able to care for themselves...the Pro-Abortion's say's no one could care for these children...even though blacks can care for themselves %26amp; there is a waiting list for years for adoptions..BOTH are liars..BOTH don't respect human life. Both will go down in history together as the worst human tragedy America has ever faced...slavery and murder of children. Both refuse to hear another view point, BOTH will fight tooth %26amp; nail to enslave %26amp; murder.





My God..what have we've done?

Ever notice the Pro-Choice Movement of today uses the same Arguments as the Pro-Slave Movement of 1850's?
Throughout history women have been in control of their own bodies. They were the ones that dictated their own personal health. This would include issue of childbirth or the prevention of a child being brought into the world. In the 19th- 20th centuries the US government began to laws and regulations on how a woman would be able to have an abortion preformed. The practice abortion has been practiced and regulated since the earliest of human history through herbalist, physicians, and the court. Abortion ends a pregnancy before birth. An abortion is when a fetus stops developing and the body expels it, this can be due to a spontaneous abortion or miscarriage. When a woman chooses to end a pregnancy it is called an induced abortion.





Due to the absence of legislation for abortion in the United States the judicial system would use British Common Law. This law would establish the rules for abortion in regards to the quickening, when a mother first feels movement generally in the forth to fifth month of gestation. The fetus was not recognized by the courts until the quickening, after if an abortion were to happen it would be considered a crime.





Why then would abortions of any kind be considered a crime by the courts of the United States as of the 1900’s. It began to be reported that women were dying due to having abortions. These women were being poisoned or had unskilled mid-wives and doctors perform the operation resulting in severe damage.





Long before the development of EC and medication abortion, many methods of inducing menstruation were used for post-coital birth control. Many of them dated back to ancient times. One method was to use a plant called silphium. In various doses, silphium could be used for ongoing oral contraception, post-coital contraception, or to induce abortion. They would be used in the 7th century BCE. It could only be grown in the country of Cyrene and would be worth more than its weight in sliver. It would appear again in the 2nd century by a Greek physician, Soranus





Pope John XXI in 1276, published Hippocrates' recipes and instructions in Thesaurus Pauperam ("Treasure of the Poor"), which detailed the pre- and post-coital contraceptive properties of commonly known plants such as hawthorn, penny royal, Queen Anne's Lace, and willow. The text also provided information and instruction for the contraceptive use of such lethal substances as arsenic, mercury, lead, and strychnine, the use of which lead to the deaths of many women during the Middle Ages.
Reply:well said
Reply:They are 2 VERY completely differeny topics. You are ignorant of the facts.
Reply:That a woman has the right to control her own body???





Somehow I don't exactly remember reading that one from the 1850's.





What you've done is presented a straw man argument - taking one aspect of a completely different argument OUT OF CONTEXT, just to support your position.





I consider your right to believe in your religion. That doesn't mean I wish to believe it too. You've also tried to link something everyone considers reprehensible to something you dislike, where no connection exists. This is just another version of Godwin's law. Definitely an argument flaw.





Intellectually dishonesty in action.
Reply:Thats a very poor comparison my friend. You must do better.


-Slavery was a bad deal for some, but was salvation for others. Don't let the poor treatment of Africans in early America blind you to the truth. Slavery saved millions of lives, it destroyed others. You must separate the pieces, or you will remain confused.


-Pro-choice is a bad deal all the way around. It is wicked to the very core.
Reply:Bravo! and thank you!


Both show total disregard for human life -- whether in or out of the womb.


Peace be with you.
Reply:Get off your soapbox and get some FACTS.... Abortion is a WOMAN's ISSUE.. it's HER body HER child...all you guys do is supply a 3 minute little microscopic organism... so why do you think it is YOUR right to decide what happens to a WOMAN's BODY!!!!!! First off, although your correlation between slave owners and abortion people is totally off base... and here's a little piece of information for you-----all those SO CALLED PRO-LIFERS only seem to care about LIFE when it relates to a FETUS---but they don't have a problem condemning a person to DEATH for a crime.... isn't that a double standard... if you are PRO-LIFE, shouldn't you be PRO-EVERYONE'S LIFE? you guys tend to be very selective.. CONVENIENTLY SO..... and tell me something---if your WIFE were pregnant and her keeping the child WOULD result in her DEATH, would you be so quick to keep a fetus and kill your WIFE???? ... If you can't be PRO-EVERYONE'S LIFE, then you shouldn't be expressing yourself as a PRO-LIFER... I am a female... it is MY RIGHT ONLY to decide what goes on in MY BODY---- if my health is jeopardized in ANY PERMANENT OR SERIOUS WAY by getting pregnant (and accidents DO happen)... then the fetus goes before I do...if the fetus is found IN the womb to have some sort of irreversible brain damage that would make the child a "vegetable" unable to have ANY quality of life---then abortion would be better FOR THE CHILD as well as the parents----look say what you will BUT, as a person who was born SEVERELY deformed and whose life was full of ignorant people who poked fun, Even though IN SPITE of that, I was able to have a fairly "good life".... I would NOT have been upset had my mother had an abortion either----but in 1950, they were not legal. Oh and IF your DAUGHTER should get raped one day---would you REALLY want her to have any child that RAPE might have produced.? A PERMANENT reminder of the horrific thing that happend to YOUR OWN CHILD???----think about that before you answer!!!!
Reply:While I salute your great stance against so called Pro-choice I have to agree with Janet`s comments on this one.

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