For those of you afraid of illegal immigrants taking your jobs...?

What are you doing about companies sending jobs overseas?





It's kind of funny and sad at the same time... you're busy fighting tooth and nail over what... some jobs working the drive-thru and picking produce in the fields that hardly pay anything... while more high-paying hi-tech jobs are being sent overseas to places like India, China, and (ironically) Mexico. They're willing to work for less too.





Yes, illegal immigrants cost money for education, health care, and welfare, but you're also forgetting that many pay taxes for things like social security which they themselves will never be able to benefit from.





Meanwhile, workers overseas don't take those kind of benefits, but they also don't pay into them either.





Which is a bigger loss? Micky D's or IBM? You're fighting the wrong battle, if it's jobs you're worried about.

For those of you afraid of illegal immigrants taking your jobs...?
Welcome to the real world nothing is certian, and life too short too worry about outsourcing, and most jobs that dont get outsourced are service jobs that are needed in the local economy. Illegals supplement contractors lacking willing to bodies to do some contruction projects, and if Mexicans are heading home quicker than usual without deportation the American economy in for a rude awaking. The illegal know when a recession hits before the rest of the public because business like cut them first. China, and India will take more jobs and a lot them are gonna be higher paying, and higher education is not desgined for the local economy where 85% cant be outsourced necessary. College system needs a shakedown, and needs stop brain washing people in marxist instead teach them how to think critically.
Reply:Who's to say we can't fight both battles. The bottom line is criminals who sneak into our country shouldn't be rewarded and I don't want someone whose first action in my country is illegal to become a fellow American.
Reply:whats funny and sad is the company's that are moving is only moving because of the cheap wages they will pay. now who's laughing at who? hahahahahahahaha. remember it's all about MONEY!!!!!!
Reply:Very good point, We need to be fighting both. We also may be to the point where we must also start looking at making our wages and benefits more realistic in order to compete in the world. Is our greed taking us out of the competition? Can we survive if we continue to loose jobs?
Reply:Illegal immigrants do not pay social security. They're paid in cash under the table. You need a social security number to pay into the system. I am fighting the battle overseas as I'm sick of calling "American" companies and getting someone in India whom I can hardly understand. I demanded to speak to a supervisor in the U.S. to complain and got someone in Canada.
Reply:I don't have a answer to your question but it seems to me that you have some dislike of the USA. Here is a suggestion. If you dislike the USA and are not here, then don't come. If you dislike the USA and are here illegally, go home and make your country a better place. If you dislike the USA and are a citizen, then quit complaining and help make the USA a better place. You are free to leave the country at any time if you don't like it.





"What a country, AMERICA!!!!"














Why is my response not intelligent? Because you don't agree with it. LOL





Also, the amount of taxes paid by illegal invaders pales in comparision to the amount they consume just in medical care and eduction alone.
Reply:First off the question shows a lack of understanding about some basic economic principles. You are right about them taking low end jobs mostly,however if you throw in enough people willing to accept lower wages,a lower standard of living etc. you can depress wages across the board. That is evidenced in the construction trades especially,during the time when construction is on a historic surge,when skilled workers are in demand and should be at a premium the fact is that wages are stagnant. But just go ahead and believe what you will,even if it's not even loosely based in reality.





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Reply:Your attempt to divert our attention is transparent and ineffective. I'll decide which battles I fight, thank you very much. And the battle right now is with the Mexican invaders.





It's time those people learned you don't get help by trashing the people who could help you.





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Reply:and thos ssn numbers there using belong to other people and it puts there live in turmoil.....are you saying thats ok ? there paying taxes by stealing an idenity what the fu$k are you thinking.
Reply:I agree with you totally.But I have a personal vote in all this illegal and non illegal crap floating around recently.My husband came here from Mexico 9yrs ago on a 3mo. visa.He never went back.Yeah,it was wrong but not the worst crime he could've commited.Now we are going through the immigration process and are almost done.But for years he has paid his taxes(more than $100.00 a week).True he has a ssecurity card and does recieve his refund at the end of the year.But many do not.They (illegals) work for the whole year paying into something they never can use.And for those unintelligent people who assume all illegals work "under the table",they are wrong.I would say that the majority now do work in places of business that take out taxes,real ss# or not.What most ppl don't get is that the government recieve their money off of any ss#.And actually they get more b/c these ppl can't claim anything they put in.





And you are right.Not many americans even want to work at mcdonalds or in migrant camps.Furthermore we americans don't event like to get dirty if we don't have to.So.if all the illegals were sent back to their prospective countries,most americans wouldn't even want the jobs they left behind.





My husband got lucky and immigration gave him his ss# when he came here.He's always worked with his own.But until he gets officially legal,he would never get to claim his social security or disability should he need it.I'm sure any american would want their benefits that they've paid into for years and would complain strongly if they couldn't receive them.But most illegals accept this and keep working.So thats less money the government has to dish out.
Reply:That's what I am talking about. Smart vision.
Reply:Thank you...very well stated. I am for controlled immigration into this country. In order to do that it starts with our borders.


Then, by allowing temporary workers in on a temporary basis, no renewals. And thirdly, If a temporary worker decides they would like to become an American citizen, then they would have to undergo a process leading to that citizenship, not given automatic. Meanwhile our country needs to wake-up and smell the constant job loss due to the exporting of America.
Reply:i just simple don't get it why Mexicans are deciding what America need's?





we have a government and it is there job to decide what America need's





please Mexicans stop deciding for us
Reply:Most people arent concerned about losing jobs to illegals, some are concerned about illegals bringing wages down..but most of us just dont want to pay for the compulsive breeders medical bills..or the special ed ESL programs for their kids





They also make $ here only to send it to mehico...we lose $ right there





What part of *illegal* do u not understand??
Reply:Two different issue , two different fights. It's the illegal part that bugs most of us. If someone want to live here and work here, why not do it legally ? As far as the jobs going to other countries, there are still many high paying jobs in America. It is a new concept these days we have to earn the business. Companies go overseas because other Governments pay them to come since these Socialistic Governments at least partially own the business so less chance of loss for the business.
Reply:I do not think that most people in the U.S. think that illegals are taking their jobs, but they are keepings wages down and keeping U.S. citizens that work blue collar jobs in poverty. Not to mention the constant drain on tax payers. You seem to think that because someone is using a SS# that they paid for that it is OK. They are getting screwed by not receiving benefits that others would be entitled to. Wake up.......Benefits are for citizens and legal immigrants. Your husband is not entitled to anything just because he made his way to the U.S. What about the people that really OWN the SS# your husband is STEALING. This is causing a great problem for them, it is identity theft. You are probably causing some other person to have to pay more taxes because the income you have made is added to theirs which would put them in a higher tax bracket. Not to mention whatever else your doing with their SS#, screwing up their credit etc. Actually when they find an illegal using someone else's SS# they should arrest them, charge them with identity theft therefore giving them a criminal record and then deport them from the US along with their wife and children. If the children are born to illegal immigrants they should not be given citizenship and should be deported along with their parents. With the criminal record they should not be allowed back into the country or even considered for amnesty or citizenship.





My husband who is a legal Latino immigrant says they should tattoo the word DEPORTED or NO US for those that can't speak English right on their foreheads so if they sneak back in no one will hire them.
Reply:You're apparently making the assumption that the jobs being sent overseas are paying the same money as they would in the U.S. - they're not. That's the point of sending them out of the country in the first place.


The only illegal immigrants that I can think of that would be paying Social Security are the ones with stolen identities. And your allusion that these illegals are paying in more than they're costing us is against common knowledge. Don't forget that the workers doing jobs for American companies overseas are paying whatever taxes their respective countries make them pay. It has nothing to do with paying taxes to America. You need to study up on your Macro Economics because nearly everything you're saying goes against them.